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Monday, September 14, 2009

Islam's propagation of violence against non-Muslims - correcting a misconception

My article "Of Islam, Churches and Temples" drew much attention from Malaysians and foreigners alike. Many readers posted positive comments on my blog as well as other blogs where that article appeared. There are many non-Muslim readers who were in fact appreciative of Islam's position when it comes to the rights of non-Muslims to practise their respective faith and belief.

However, there are two commentators on my blog who posted some really inflammatory remarks about Islam. Hiding behind the skirt of anonymity, these two persons displayed so much hatred against Islam that I found it necessary to delete their respective comments from my blog. And I make no apology for doing so.

It is quite obvious that bigotry exists on both side of the fence. I don't mind engaging with anybody on whatever subject which are closed to my heart. But when people merely spew hatred and baseless allegations, especially against my faith, even more so in the comfort of anonymity, I find solace in my delete button. And I am gleeful that I don't even have to state a reason for so doing.

Having said so, I must hasten to add that this is not the first time I have encountered such baseless tirade from non-Muslims about Islam. And we, the Muslims and the so called Muslims, are not entirely blameless. Judging from the propensity of some so called Muslims to blow themselves up in crowded places nowadays, all in the name of "jihad", I am not surprised if non-Muslims think that Islam propagates violence, especially against non-Muslims.

And to add to that, the fact that Muslims began killing each other just after Prophet Muhammad's - peace be upon him - passing also lend credence to such belief. To further add to the image of violence, just look at the number of times we read about the Shiite bombing the Sunnis's mosque after or during Friday prayers and vice versa.

Such is the image of Islam nowadays that it is hard for non-Muslims not to be convinced that Islam is a faith which preaches violence and that "jihad" in Islam is all about killing non-believers for a place in heaven surrounded by 72 virgins and nice little boys who would serve drinks.

Sad. But that is the reality of it all, nowadays.

Most of the non-Muslims' misconception about Islam being a religion which propagates violence against non-Muslims stems from several verses in the Quran which seem to suggest that Muslims should go all out to kill non-Muslims. And the killing of non-Muslims is considered as a "jihad".

Among others, the followings are the relevant verses:

  • 8:12 Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instill terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them."

  • 47:4 Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers (in fight), smite at their necks; At length, when ye have thoroughly subdued them, bind a bond firmly (on them): thereafter (is the time for) either generosity or ransom: Until the war lays down its burdens. Thus (are ye commanded): but if it had been Allah's Will, He could certainly have exacted retribution from them (Himself); but (He lets you fight) in order to test you, some with others. But those who are slain in the Way of Allah,- He will never let their deeds be lost.

  • 2:190 Fight in the way of God against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! God loves not aggressors.

  • 2:191 And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have Turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who suppress faith.

The above verses, when read out of context and without knowing the circumstances under which they were revealed, tend to suggest that Islam propagates violence against non-Muslims. Nothing could be further from the truth.

If verses from old scriptures are to be read out of context and without any knowledge of their surrounding circumstances, many of their verses could be interpreted wrongly. This misinterpretation would lead to suggestions that they propagate violence. Even the Bible is replete with these verses.

Consider these:

  • "Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword." (Mathew 10:34)

  • "I have come to turn " 'a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law" (Matthew 10:35)

  • "Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass." (1 Samuel 15:3)

  • "The people of Samaria must bear their guilt because they have rebelled against their God. They will fall by the sword; their little ones will be dashed to the ground, their pregnant women ripped open." (Hosea 13:16)

Surely the Bible is not a scripture which propagate violence. It is a book of love, of peace and harmony. As is the Quran.

Verse 8:12 of the Quran above was brought during the battle of Badar where 300 Muslims were facing about 1000 non-Muslims enemies who were bent on obliterating the then new faith which was just gaining it's footing. The Muslims were scared and some were in doubt of their strength. They were being persecuted and subjected to torture and ridicule on daily basis. The verse was revealed in those circumstances. That verse is not a general decree from God for Muslims to kill all non-Muslims by cutting off their head!

The same is also the case with verse 47:4 of the Quran. It asks the Muslims to kill the non-believers in a fight (war or battle). But Muslims can only fight when attacked by the enemies. The Quran commanded:

2:190 Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loveth not transgressors.

In fact, the Quran forbids fighting when the enemies want peace.

  • 8.61 But if the enemy incline towards peace, do thou (also) incline towards peace, and trust in God: for He is One that hears and knows (all things).
  • 60.8 God forbids you not, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) Faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for God loves those who are just.
  • 60.9 God only forbids you, with regard to those who fight you for (your) Faith, and drive you out of your homes, and support (others) in driving you out, from turning to them (for friendship and protection). It is such as turn to them (in these circumstances), that do wrong.

It is clear from the above verses that God commands Muslims to be kind and just to non-Muslims because God loves those who are just (60:8).

On the other hand God forbids Muslims from befriending or turning for protection to people who fight the Muslims because of their faith and who drive Muslims out of their homes or support those who do so (60:9).

Nowhere is there in the Quran that Muslims are commanded to kill non-Muslims or to act in an unfair or unjust manner to non-Muslims.

Those people who spew so much hatred against Islam and who have been quoting verses out context are nothing but religious bigots who are bent on giving Islam a bad name. But bigots being bigots, these people would refuse to be drawn into any meaningful engagement. They would sit within this huge field of hatred and prejudices. And in the comfort of anonymity, they would attack and spew their hatred.

They know who they are.

31 comments:

John Baptist said...

Thanks bro, I have never believed Islam to be a religion of violence or hatred and I never shall. I won't hold Islam responsible for the actions of a minority who through their callow understanding of Islam prefer a path of violence and destruction. The blame is solely theirs, not Islam.

Anonymous said...

As you said early bro there are fanatics on both side of the wall. They are the one who miss use religion for their own gain.As far as i consider all religion lead to the same almighty just the path are different but violence is not among it.

Tohkongmosjid said...

ART, nice writings.

But lets see if you get any bad remarks from people who are anti-Islam and those who think you are not in a "qualified" position to preach about Islam.

Then it will just prove your point further it the sense of "morons are everywhere", ignore them for your inner soul peace.

Cheers!

Bala said...

But aren't we non-muslims either kaffir-harbi or kaffir-dimmi?

At least from the writings in Malaysia (Utusan, myKMU, zulkfli Nordin), seems a non-muslim is either an enemy or enslaved.

Why should I care what 'real' islam is. After all, I don't subscribe to the bedoin/jewish concept of eternal hell/heaven. What i care is how the real, in-the-flesh Muslims deal with us. So far, it is not really encouraging.

Anonymous said...

Idiots are idiots... and universal.

BBpeep said...

Dear art Harun,
Let say, I invent an equipment and then i write an operating instruction for the equipment. Later I discovered the users damaged the equipments because they could not completely understand the instructions.I think I am obliged to re-write the Operating manual. What more,there is a similar equipment Made in China, cheaper, user friendly, and does not even have a operating manual.

tAsunami unleashed said...

Nice write-up Bro,

Islam as a religion is NOT and DON'T preach violence and hatred. Therefore a true muslim who practices Islam is NOT violent. That i agreed. And the same applies to other faith.

A matter-of-factly, kadang-kadang or rather very often our prostitution (correct me, no offend) politicians "used" religion and race-based ideology for political survival. That is disgusting and sickening.And that is happening no where but in Malaysia.

Anyone?

Mak said...

How come God say thing based on circumstances? So, to kill or not to kill? During a war, then it is justify to kill? If someone question the value of Islam and planing to destroy Islam, should we kill him?

What are the circumstances that muslim are justify to kill non-mulism?

zorro said...

ART, I just tagged you in my latest posting for a good cause.

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Anonymous said...

One concern of mine is that Muslims seem to think the world has some anti-Muslim, possibly Christian agenda when that isn't the case at all.

Karen said...

Islam has been an unfortunate scapegoat for many who claim to be believers.

You are amongst those who have proven that Islam still has some of the very best characters as followers.

Selamat Berpuasa

Dense said...

You can quote the Koran until you are blue in the face, and I for one, wont disagree with you. But there is a world of difference between what the Koran preaches and what muslims practice. You dont have to go sniffing out suicide bombers to observe that fact, because it surrounds us in every way on every day in Malaysia.

So what's gone wrong? Many things really. Firstly, there is no question that the teaching of Islam suppresses the individuality of muslims, suppresses many of their thinking skills and suppresses their ability to think and act as individuals. After all that's what the religion is about... blind acceptance.

Secondly, Islam promotes amongst its followers attitudes of superiority and all-knowingness. Its quite apparent when looking at the Malaysia around us today that muslims are neither superior nor all knowing. In fact they are running close to being widely regarded incompetent,devious, unreliable, unprincipled and unethical.

Thirdly, there is an atmosphere of apathy amongst the 'so-called' good muslims which reflects the ethics of their leaders in that apart from a few outspoken liberals nobody is prepared to get up and denounce the un-islamic attitudes of their peers. So the prevailing impression is that all muslims are rotten. There is plenty of reason to think that way and very little reason to think the contrary.

And finally, UMNO practices a small time version of the less pleasant aspects of Islam. They both use the same tools of indoctrination and suppression: fear, intimidation and violence to demoralise and render vulnerable their followers/people. And there are frightening similarities between the behaviour of UMNO politicians and the more parasitic of Mohd's followers. Like Islam, UMNO is backward looking and I believe that's because Islam teaches that all the answers you will ever need are to be found in the Koran. Strange that the progressive 3/4 of the world's population believes otherwise. Also the need of Islam to repress the analytical thinking of muslims so that they never truly question dogma flows through into muslims inability to see into and plan for the future

Do I hate Islam? To me its no better nor any worse than any other Abrahamic religion in its principles. Its practices stink!

Anonymous said...

Dear Art,

Islam is out to destroy the world as we know it. No amount of image polishing would change that. Sorry Art, you know very well you are indulging in TAQQIYA with this article of yours against the KAFFIRS, are't you??? Peace.

Raj

Holy Brother said...

Dear Art ,
I believe in humanity not religion for religion as proven in many instances was used either as a sword or shield .

Anonymous said...

Quote:”The real crisis in the Muslim world seems to be a structural one and has less to do with Islam or theology”. Unquote.

SO says every thinking Muslim.

As a distinguish Muslim and learned man your self, you are required to understand the bible as well; especially the Pentateuch or Jewish Torah. I think there is a wisdom here as per this requirement.
If one were to read the Bible from a historian standpoint, one can see that promises and covenant made by GOD with Abram and later renamed Abraham by God, is now almost fulfilled. Only the Judgment Day remains elusive at the moment.

Yes! God promised Hagar, the Egyptian slave maid of Abraham: See the Jerusalem Bible: Genesis Ch 16 vs. 9-12.( I quote here for easy reference so that all here in the blog can communicate easily but also dangerous if one has not understood the Bible and Quran.)

The angel of Yahweh said to her, ‘Go back to your mistress and submit to her:
‘Now you have conceived, and you will bear a son,
And you shall name him Ishmael,
For Yahweh has heard your cries of distress.
A wild ass of a man he will be,
Against every man, and every man against him,
Setting himself to defy all his brothers’.

Yes, I do not like dealt with theology here, for I am no theologian. But looking from the historical point of view can we not agree that what is happening in the world today has happened, is happening and will continue to happen. Whether the future as willed by God will happen is truly frightening indeed. Look at the countries where the majority of its population is Muslim. Is it not a happening as will by Yahweh?

Of course, in every race of every geographical areas of the earth, there are percentages of people belonging to different classification of believers and thinkers. Similarly, we can also classify that there are three distinct intrinsic characteristics of people in the world by the utensils they use to do the most basic act of survival: eating, by using tools such as fork and knives/spoons and chopsticks and (like a baby) their hands.

Is there a grand design here where only the races whose basic act of eating by using their hands are attracted towards the eventual revelation by the direct descendants of Ishmael which is now known as Islam? Are’nt these people living in countries only know how to consume and did not contribute to the world compared to the other two races eating their meals using fork & knifes and chopsticks.
Yes, some will say they did contributed to the world of algebra, architecture and medicine. Why has did contribution stop?
As a believer of God, what inspires me most is the unraveling and the manifestations of God’s promises covenanted with Abraham and his family; now happening daily in our eyes today. So, can we also accept that God our creator knows that no two people are alike and, therefore, each and every one must be given a choice and a talent (gift) to survive in this world? Therefore, each person must also be allowed to chose the religion that touch their spirit the most. With all these gifts given to humans, can we imagine the possibilities/problems that arise when all these gifts are put into a grand formula? Can we not safely assumed that because no two persons are alike, each person must be allowed to chose which path to follow that leads them to God/Allah?
Yes. Your argument that this is a man made structural problems may be correct. Would not it be better argued that this is happening as willed by Yahweh/Allah and those we humans; especially followers of Ishmael (wild ass) descendants do not heed God’s wisdom to know the Bible well?

Fellow Umma, you have been given Ishmael as your leader by the God’s of Ibrahim. A donkey he is and you are his children.

lezz said...

Agree with the comments above.
Seriously, it does not matter to most people what Islam says (or what people claims their interpretation of islam is). Islam is no science because faith has no scientific basis. Therefore as far as we (ie non muslims at large) are concerned, it is the actions that count. It is no use claiming a religion is practiced as it should have been in 1% of cases, while it is hijacked 99% of the time. If that is true, then islamic practice is analogous to 'setitik susu dalam setong nila' and so it is better to throw the untouched bathing water out along with the dead baby.

Anonymous said...

Art I liked reading your writings Art, may I quote a quotation from the Bible> He who have not sinned pick the frist stone and cast it to the sinner. In reflection of this quotation. She an Islam was having a nice time with a can of
beer in hand with friends, lost
her hard earning RM5000 and to be canned. Do these people ever sinned
and no guilt. Sin committed is to
GOD. Are they not hypocrites? Art.
Are there no freedom of beliefs in Islam. They should only advise her. Thank you Art

PM said...

Art you have tried to portray Islam as a peaceful religion here in malaysia as most fair minded muslim do. With so many atrocities created by muslim world wide, it is hard to believe as such.. I have been visiting and reading DR Ali Sina website http://www.faithfreedom.org/

and it frightens the shit out of me. When I have problems with what are been discussed, I would at times email Ali Sina and have an entirely different version of explaination. As such I read the quran Pickhall(spelling) and did not like it. There are more or less 100 verses to kill and to harm non muslims in my collection.

Sometimes I think to myself..if god is powerful and almighty why mention killing and fighting. Where is the compassionate and almighty in him.??

Another Islam is brittle and cannot stand up to criticism. I am sure you know what I mean as happening in the country.

Qoute ""Islam is not a religion of peace. The proof is in the Quran. Let us tell the truth. Save lives, not lies"" By Ali Sina : http://www.faithfreedom.org/about-us/

I do not condemn Islam or spread hatred. Majority of my friends are malays and I sometimes do sit in the surau and talk to them. I remember as a young boy I was invited to a kenduri and we all sat in a circle. Each of them read the Quran and then passed to the next guy to read. When it came to my turn I carried the Quran in both hands and passed to the guy who sat next to me. Times have changed...???

To be honest with you, a malay normally in his own self is good, well mannered and polite but when instigated by someone who thinks he knows alot..thats where the problems lies...picking and choosing verses to suit a certain condition. On a number of occasions I told some of my friends why choose that verse when there are plenty of other beautiful verses which gives a true nature of islam...

Meng

Gadfly said...

Art, is it possible to come out with 2 revised editions of Quran so that for Revision No.1 no matter how you interpret, you can never justify violence. And for Revision No.2, no matter how you interpret, it is meant for violence. By so doing, anybody who quotes the Quran, we will ask which edition they are quoting.

This is to avoid confusion. It seems that the surgeon type of warning for smokers "Smoking kills" not very effective.

Fahim kamtan mirza said...

What Does "Islam" Mean?

The word "Islam" itself means "Submission to Allah." The religion of Islam is not named after a person as in the case of "Christianity" which was named after Jesus Christ, "Buddhism" after Gutama Buddha , "Marxism" after Karl Marx, and "Confucianism" after Confucius.

Similarly, Islam is not named after a tribe like "Judaism" after the tribe of Judah and "Hinduism" after the Hindus. The Arabic word "Islam" means the submission or surrender of one's will to the will of the only true god worthy of worship, "Allah" (known as God "the Father" in Christianity).

Anyone who does indeed submit to the will of Allah as required by Islam is termed a "Muslim," which means one who has submitted to the will of Allah. Many people in the West have developed the sad misinformed trend of calling Islam "Muhammadenism" and it's followers "Muhammadins." This is a totally foreign word to Muslims and unrecognized by them. No Muslim has ever called his religion "Muhammadenism" or called himself a "Muhammadin."

What Is The Basic Concept of Islam?

Islam teaches us that this life is a life of worship. We are placed on this earth in order to worship Allah and obey His command. During this earthly life we are subjected to a series of trials. We have the option of enduring these trials and conforming to certain laws, and our reward will be great in the next life, or we may decline to endure these trials and choose to not conform to the law, then we will be made to regret it in the next life.

Each person will be solely and completely responsible for their own final reward. We are also told that God has designed these laws to make this life a better, safer, and more tolerable one for us. If we elect to conform to them then we will see the result in this life even before moving on to the next.
We are told that the earthly life is a life of faith and work, and the next life is one of reward and no work. We have been placed on this earth to worship God, fast, pray, be industrious, good, kind, respectful, and a source of uprightness and morality. We are told that God has no need of our worship. Our worship can not increase the kingdom of God nor add to His power, however, it is in our best interests both in this life and the next that we do.

Unlike some other religions which claim that God entered in a covenant with a certain group of people and that this group is genetically better than all other human beings, or closer to God, Islam on the other hand teaches that no color, race, tribe, or lineage is better than any other. Islam teaches that all humans are equal in the sight of Allah and that the only thing that can distinguish them in His sight is their piety and worship.

"O humankind! Verily! We have created you from a male and female, and have made you nations and tribes that you may know one another. Verily! the noblest among you in the sight of Allah is the most God-fearing. Verily! Allah is The Knower, The Aware." The noble Qur'an, Al-Hujrat(49):13.


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Virus said...

Holy Brother said "I believe in humanity not religion for religion as proven in many instances was used either as a sword or shield ."

So, if you were struck by a sword, hit by a shield, shot by a gun. Do you blame the sword, the shield or the gun for your demise? No, you would blame the person wielding the sword, using the shield and pulling the trigger.

Religion/faith/believe/philosophy and basically all everything under the heavens are being used by humans for their own means. A sword in the hands of the just will be used to defend himself and others around him. A sword in the hands of evil will be used as a weapon of destruction.

Humans are the ones who conveniently pick lines (out of context) from the Bible and Quran to justify their intention. If their intentions are noble, they will pick a merciful line, if their intentions are evil, they will pick a violent line.

Such is the sad reality of humanity.

Important thing to remember is not to judge a group of people because of their leaders' action. Trouble makers draw a lot of attention to themselves and sometimes we forget that they do not represent the people they claim to represent.

Kris said...

Man has an innately defensive nature (and that's being kind). In defence of our personal fears and insecurities (which can manifest in any form, self, beliefs, religion etc) we are capable of extraordinary horrors. And religion is the one of the easiest if not most defensible stances to take...

PM said...

The only way to get rid of the misconception on Islam is to rewrite the Quran. Remove all the verses of atrocities, the contradiction and those degrading women...so none can follow those verse of hate..and all will be well with Islam.

Meng

Anonymous said...

Art,

This is a bit personal and you do not need to answer if you choose not to.

Do you consider yourself a Muslim first than a Malay or a Malay who is a Muslim ?

Ex-M

Virus said...

Interesting statistic from

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/cruelty/bible_quran.html

There are 842 "violent" verses in the Bible and 333 "violent" verses from the Quran.

Why then is Islam perceived as a "violent" faith but not Catholics/Christians? The Catholics were ruthless during the Crusade - well most of them; but still they are not today perceived as cruel and violent by the general population?

Maybe it is because of the actions of some Muslims today... or perhaps it is due to a heavily western control media.

In Malaysia however, I believe many equate Malays to Muslims and other ethnic groups who feel that they are treated as second class citizens dislike Malays and hence Muslims as well. Politicians making extremist/stupid remarks to win votes does not help either... It is not so much about Islam/Muslims but more about why am I not treated the same?

The majority of Malaysian who are sensible however, need to keep an open mind. Some differences we cannot resolve within our generation but as long as we do not preach hate, our future generations will be able resolve the differences.

Obama is black, his forefathers were enslaved by the white men, and his forefathers were freed by the white man and now he is voted to be the president by the white men. Whoever thought this possible when USA was a 57 years old country?

Anonymous said...

I believe Islam and Christianity has the same origin and is not a problem. Religion is not a problem but race is. Elite malays had create a great big wall that the whole non-Malays feel seriously very disturb. There are many non-Malay Islamic persons and ordinary Malays that respect each other and yet still does not benefited like the elite malays

This list is a common knowledge to a lot of Malaysians, especially those non-Malays (Chinese, Ibans, Kadazans, Orang Asli, Tamils, etc.) who have been racially discriminated against.

This list covers a period of about 48 years since independence (1957).

List of racial discriminations (Malaysia):

(1) Of the five major banks, only one is multi-racial, the rest are controlled by Malays.

(2) 99% of Petronas directors are Malays.

(3) 3% of Petronas employees are Chinese.

(4) 99% of 2000 Petronas gasoline stations are owned by Malays.

(5) 100% all contractors working under Petronas projects must be of Bumis status.

(6) 0% of non-Malay staff are legally required in Malay companies. But there must be 30% Malay staffs in Chinese companies.

(7) 5% of all new intake for government police, nurses, army, are non-Malays.

(8) 2% is the present Chinese staff in Royal Malaysian Air Force (RMAF), a drop from 40% in 1960.

(9) 2% is the percentage of non-Malay government servants in Putrajaya, but Malays make up 98%.

(10) 7% is the percentage of Chinese government servants in the entire government (in 2004); a drop from 30% in 1960.

(11) 95% of government contracts are given to Malays.

(12) 100% all business licensees are controlled by Malay government, e..g. Taxi permits, Approved permits, etc.

(13) 80% of the Chinese rice millers in Kedah had to be sold to Malay controlled Bernas in 1980s. Otherwise, life is made difficult for Chinese rice millers.

(14) 100 big companies set up, owned and managed by Chinese Malaysians were taken over by government, and later managed by Malays since 1970s, e.g. UTC, UMBC, MISC, Southern Bank etc..

(15) At least 10 Chinese owned bus companies (throughout Malaysia in the past 40 years) had to be sold to MARA or other Malay transport companies due to rejection by Malay authorities to Chinese applications for bus routes and rejection for their applications for new buses..

(16) Two Chinese taxi drivers were barred from driving in Johor Larkin bus station. There are about 30 taxi drivers and three were Chinese in Oct. 2004. Spoiling taxi club properties was the reason given.

(17) 0 non-Malays are allowed to get shop lots in the new Muar bus station (Nov.. 2004).

(18) 8000 billion ringgit is the total amount the government channeled to Malay pockets through ASB, ASN, MARA, privatization of government agencies, Tabung Haji etc, through NEP over a 34 years period.

(19) 48 Chinese primary schools closed down from 1968 - 2000.

(20) 144 Indian primary schools closed down from 1968 - 2000.

(21) 2637 Malay primary schools built from 1968 - 2000.

(22) 2.5% is government budget for Chinese primary schools. Indian schools got only 1%, Malay schools got 96.5%.

(23) While a Chinese parent with RM1000 salary (monthly) cannot get school textbook loan, a Malay parent with RM2000 salary is eligible.

(24) All 10 public university vice chancellors are Malays.

(25) 5% of the government universities' lecturers are of non-Malay origins. This percentage has been reduced from about 70% in 1965 to only 5% in 2004.

There are hundreds more examples of racial discrimination in Malaysia to add to this list of 'colossal' racism. situation.

Anonymous said...

(26) Only 5% has been given to non-Malays for government scholarships in over 40 years.

(27) 0 Chinese or Indians were sent to Japan and Korea under the 'Look East Policy.'

(28) 128 STPM Chinese top students could not get into the course to which they aspired, i.e. Medicine (in 2004).

(29) 10% quotas are in place for non-Bumi students for MARA science schools beginning in 2003, but only 7% are filled. Before that it was 100% Malays.

(30) 50 cases in which Chinese and Indian Malaysians are beaten up in the National Service program in 2003.

(31) 25% of the Malaysian population was Chinese in 2004, a drop from 45% in 1957.

(32) 7% of the Malaysian population is Indian (2004), a drop from 12% in 1957.

(33) 2 million Chinese Malaysians have emigrated in the past 40 years.

(34) 0.5 million Indian Malaysians have emigrated overseas.

(35) 3 millions Indonesians have migrated to Malaysia and become Malaysian citizens with Bumis status.

(36) 600,000 Chinese and Indian Malaysians with red IC were rejected repeatedly when applying for citizenship in the past 40 years. Perhaps 60% of them had already passed away due to old age. This shows racism, based on how easily Indonesians got their citizenships compared with the Chinese and Indians.

(37) 5% - 15% discount for a Malay to buy a house, regardless whether the Malay is rich or poor.

(38) 2% is what new Chinese villages get, compared with 98% - what Malay villages got for rural development budget.

(41) 0 temples/churches were built for each housing estate. But every housing estate got at least one mosque/surau built.

(42) 3000 mosques/surau were built in all housing estates throughout Malaysia since 1970. No temples or churches are required to be built in housing estates.

(43) 1 Catholic church in Shah Alam took 20 years to apply to have a building constructed. But they were told by Malay authority that it must look like a factory and not like a church. As of 2004 the application still have not been approved.

(44) 1 publishing of Bible in Iban language banned (in 2002).

(45) 0 of the government TV stations (RTM1, RTM2, TV3) are directors of non-Malay origin.

(46) 30 government produced TV dramas and films always showed that the bad guys had Chinese faces, and the good guys had Malay faces. You can check it out since 1970s. Recent years, this has become less of a tendency.

(47) 10 times, at least, Malays (especially Umno) had threatened to massacre the Chinese Malaysians using May 13, since 1969.

(48) 20 constituencies won by DAP would not get funds from the government to develop. These Chinese majority constituencies would be the last to be developed.

(49) 100 constituencies (parliaments and states) had been racially re-delineated so Chinese votes were diluted for Chinese candidates. This is one of the main reasons why DAP candidates have consistently lost in elections since the 1970s. (update to 2008 needed)

(50) Only 3 out of 12 human rights items are ratified by the Malaysian government since 1960.

(51) 0 - elimination of all forms of racial discrimination (UN Human Rights) has not been ratified by Malaysian government since 1960s.

(52) 20 reported cases whereby Malay ambulance attendances treated Chinese patients inhumanely, and Malay government hospital staffs purposely delayed attending to Chinese patients in 2003. Unreported cases may be 200.

(54) 20 cases every year whereby Chinese drivers who accidentally knocked down Malays were seriously assaulted or killed by Malays.

(55) 12% is what ASB/ASN got per annum while banks fixed deposits are only about 3.5% per annum.

Anonymous said...

RPK : ".... it is the 'muslims' themselves who HAVE insulted the 'ISLAM' ....!! "

Born2Reign said...

We see 8% of what is present, the rest 92% is invisible to the human eyes, but they are there. I'm referring to the spiritual realm.

The spirit of rejection hovers around the sons of Ishmael. Abraham was too near-sighted when he slept with Sarah's maidservant and produced Ishmael. Even after God Himself told Abraham that his wife Sarah will bear him a son. After that God did not speak to him for 13 years.

As with Cain, his offering was rejected, but instead God accepted his brother Abel's offering with favour. From this rejection, he had 2 choices: to go to God and repent or to destroy God's object of affection. He chose to destroy.

Rejection breeds bitterness. Bitterness breeds self-loathe and hatred. Every action of a Muslim spells low self-esteem and destruction, not love nor grace/compassion. People who do not love themselves cannot love others. Hurt people hurt others.

Ishmael was sent away, while Isaac the little brother is loved and stayed with his father. Ishmael was rejected by his own father.

This same scenario is played out between Esau and Jacob, 2 nations, the older Esau will serve the younger Jacob. Esau vowed to kill his brother Jacob. But here is a happy ending. In the end God blessed both brothers and Esau received Jacob with open arms.

Another reason Islam is so misunderstood is that most common Malays and Indonesians DO NOT understand the Quran (Islam). They chant and recite, but has no understanding of the Arab writings. With lack of understanding comes blind faith, as "translated" by the imam and the head of state. They give authority to man, not Allah.

While the Bible encourages a reader to verify what the pastor or priest taught with God's Word, Islam is opposite, where those who ask questions are punished. Again root cause is no self-worth.

All said and done, I believe God's purpose is reconciliation between the 2 brothers, as in Esau and Jacob. I believe the God of Love and Mercy will do it in this end times.

Shalom.

Anonymous said...

Wow.. the readers comments on this post are quite profound and I wonder if both Muslims and Christians and atheists do read them with maturity and wisdom.

First, on the call to active violence in the Bible, it is should be noted that it is only evident in the Old Testament and the reason is there were many enemies of Judah tribe that wanted to kill them. God's plan for the birth of Jesus extended from the descendents of Abraham. Satan, the fallen angel, tried to scuttle this plan and was unwittingly overcome when Jesus died on the cross as a sacrifice for man's sins.

Second, there is no basis to think that Christians believe that the Jews are genetically superior. God was looking all over the world for a man who is after his own heart and that man happened to be Abraham, who was a Jew. Thus, he promised to bless the Jewish tribe and His promise is eternal.

Third, the coming of Jesus and the acceptance of non-Jews in their faith in Jesus as God means that the blessings of the promised people is extended to all of mankind.

Fourth, Jesus never prescribed us to kill others but instead to love our enemies even if they hate/harm us. When he said to hate our fathers and mothers, he means to wean us off any soul ties and put God first in our lives.

Finally, as they say, the proof of the puding is in the eating. So we should ask ourselves whether the majority of born-again Christians (not those who happened ot be borned in a Christian family) live a peaceful and loving lifestyle?

Human nature is borned of the flesh and there is sin in the flesh. So many of our failures in loving others selflessly is due to this nature which can be slowly erased and subsumed by the power of the Holy Spirit, which is God.

In comparison, we should also ask why in the Koran is there this dual, and seemingly contradictory message of violence and love. Is there any mention of unconditional love for others, the highest love known as agape love in the Bible ?

Indeed, these two sides (or interpretations) of Islam is as stark as the bright and dark side of the moon. Nonetheless, Malaysians from all walks of life should enquire not about their religions, but about what it means to live peacefully in this world while practising their faiths.

Btw. in the new testatment warns us to beware of those who deny that Jesus is the Son of God. They are of the antichrist spirit which is seeking to rule the world in the final battle with God in the present endtimes. Do Christians seek out to kill other people who don't believe that Jesus is the Son of God? Not as far as I know and we can exclude the 0.1% cults.